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Cantera's Temporal Approach

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	If the Cantera reactor model were integral in time, it would model N seconds of a reaction by taking a single timestep. It would extrapolate the state of the reactor at time 0 to all other times. However, the differential model (in time) takes a series of small timesteps, essentially solving differential reactors in time. That is, over a given timestep, the reactor state is assumed to be uniform. (For very fast reactions, this is a bad assumption. As the timestep shrinks, however, this assumption becomes less and less bad.)		If the Cantera reactor model were integral in time, it would model N seconds of a reaction by taking a single timestep. It would extrapolate the state of the reactor at time 0 to all other times. However, the differential model (in time) takes a series of small timesteps, essentially solving differential reactors in time. That is, over a given timestep, the reactor state is assumed to be uniform. (For very fast reactions, this is a bad assumption. As the timestep shrinks, however, this assumption becomes less and less bad.)




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	=Cantera's Temporal Approach=		=Cantera's Temporal Approach=

	~~Differential/~~integral reactor ~~definitions fit into how~~ Cantera is ~~solving equations~~		Cantera's approach to reactor modeling is to solve an ODE for a single control volume. The reactor is integral in space - the primary assumption in Cantera's reactor model is that the models are perfectly mixed, spatially - and so no spatial gradients are captured. The state of a reactor is described by a single thermodynamic state. However, the Cantera reactor is differential in time - hence the temporal differential equation.
	* Single Cantera reactor ~~with~~ a ~~single control volume over~~ a single timestep ~~is a differential~~ reactor
	* Shrinking differential ~~element size~~ (timestep) to be ~~tinier and tinier~~		If the Cantera reactor model were integral in time, it would model N seconds of a reaction by taking a single timestep. It would extrapolate the state of the reactor at time 0 to all other times. However, the differential model (in time) takes a series of small timesteps, essentially solving differential reactors in time. That is, over a given timestep, the reactor state is assumed to be uniform. (For very fast reactions, this is a bad assumption. As the timestep shrinks, however, this assumption becomes less and less bad.)
	* assuming spatial step is ~~not differential~~, ~~because assuming perfect spatial mixing~~, ~~so no variance, so no difference (integral over constant function is linear func~~)
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A Word on Gradients

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	Main difference between integral and differential reactors is in the assumptions about what's going on inside the reactor control volume. This changes the form of equations being solved.		Main difference between integral and differential reactors is in the assumptions about what's going on inside the reactor control volume. This changes the form of equations being solved.

	=A Word on Gradients=		=A Word on Distributions and Gradients=

	Really, ultimately, the difference is all about gradients. Whether you resolve them, or integrate over them; whether you ignore them, or treat them rigorously; not just which directions the gradients are in, but also which quantities the gradients are for.		Really, ultimately, the difference between integral and differential reactors is all about gradients. Whether you resolve them, or integrate over them; whether you ignore them, or treat them rigorously; not just which directions the gradients are in, but also which quantities the gradients are for.

			And ultimately, gradients are all about distributions. How does the distribution of thermodynamic states, the distribution of temperatures, the distribution of species concentrations, inside of a particular reactor, look?

			Fogler, for example, talks about residence time distributions: reactors in which different fluid packets spend different amounts of time.

			To model a reactor with a wide range of residence times, a differential reactor model would create a set of differential reactors, with each differential reactor being assigned its own residence time. This would approximate the distribution with a set of finite bins, equal to the number of different reactors. An integral reactor, on the other hand, would average all the residence times of all the fluid packets, and model the entire reactor with a single integral reactor, with a single mean residence time. This is equivalent to integrating the entire distribution of residence times to arrive at a mean residence time.

			The differential reactor model is more expensive - we're solving N reactor equations, instead of 1 - but resolves gradients.

			The integral reactor model is cheaper - we only need to solve 1 reactor equation - but it smears out all gradients smaller than the integral reactor.

	=Integral Reactors=		=Integral Reactors=

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Main difference between integral and differential reactors is in the assumptions about what's going on inside the reactor control volume. This changes the form of equations being solved.

=A Word on Gradients=

Really, ultimately, the difference is all about gradients. Whether you resolve them, or integrate over them; whether you ignore them, or treat them rigorously; not just which directions the gradients are in, but also which quantities the gradients are for.

=Integral Reactors=

Integral reactors: effects are integrated, conditions are wide, changing

Integral reactors may be isothermal - simply having an isothermal temperature profile does not mean a reactor is differential

Essentally an integral reactor is characterized by having gradients, or changes, in its thermodynamic state throughout the reactor volume. This necessitates either integrating over the multiple different zones of the reactor, each of which has a different temperature, pressure, composition, reaction rate, etc., or modeling the reactor as multiple interacting zones.

=Differential Reactors=

Differential reactors are the differential control volumes over which material/energy balances are written when deriving from, e.g., [[Reynolds Transport Theorem]].

These are small enough, relative to the gradients in the system, that the control volume can be assumed to be perfectly uniform over the entire control volume.

In a differential chemical reactor, then, the entire reactor could be described with a single thermodynamic state - a single temperature, pressure, and composition - and thus have a single reaction rate, a single kinetic rate coefficient, and so on.

Thus, (real) differential reactors are useful for measuring kinetic rate data. (See Froment Bischoff book on reactor design for more details.)

=Cantera's Temporal Approach=

Differential/integral reactor definitions fit into how Cantera is solving equations
* Single Cantera reactor with a single control volume over a single timestep is a differential reactor
* Shrinking differential element size (timestep) to be tinier and tinier
* assuming spatial step is not differential, because assuming perfect spatial mixing, so no variance, so no difference (integral over constant function is linear func)
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