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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;{{FMM |title=A Pair of Dice Games |problem=  Consider two dice games:  In the first game, you toss a single die N1 times. The question is, what should N1 be in order to make t...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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|title=A Pair of Dice Games&lt;br /&gt;
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Consider two dice games:&lt;br /&gt;
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In the first game, you toss a single die N1 times. The question is, what should N1 be in order to make the probability of seeing at least one 6 greater than 1/2?&lt;br /&gt;
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(In gambling terms, what should N1 be to make an &amp;quot;even money&amp;quot; bet on seeing at least one 6 advantageous to the gambler instead of the house?)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the second game, you toss a pair of dice N2 times. The question is, what should N2 be to make the probability of seeing at least one double 6 greater than 1/2?&lt;br /&gt;
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Source: Will You Be Alive 10 Years From Now? by Paul Nahin&lt;br /&gt;
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Original source: Antoine Gombaud and Blaise Pascal, correspondence, 1654&lt;br /&gt;
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Let&lt;br /&gt;
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P1 = probability of first seeing, with probability &amp;gt; 1/2, at least one 6 in N1 tosses of a fair die&lt;br /&gt;
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P2 = probability of first seeing, with probability &amp;gt; 1/2, at least one double 6 in N2 tosses of a fair die&lt;br /&gt;
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Pascal observed that for P1, if a die is tossed N1 times, there are 6^N1 ways it can land, and 5^N1 ways it can land without showing a 6.&lt;br /&gt;
Since &amp;quot;no 6 in N1 tosses&amp;quot; is a complementary event to &amp;quot;at least one 6 in N1 tosses&amp;quot;, they are mutually exclusive, and inclusive (the only possible outcomes).&lt;br /&gt;
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The probability of getting a single 6 on a single toss is 1/6, so probability of not getting a 6  is 5/6. The probability of not getting a 6 in N1 rolls is (5/6)^N1.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, the probability of not not getting a 6 in N1 rolls is 1 - (5/6)^N1, in other words,&lt;br /&gt;
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P1 = 1 - (5/6)^N1&lt;br /&gt;
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via tabulation, N1 = 4&lt;br /&gt;
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Similarly, we know the probability of throwing a double 6 on a single toss of two dice is 1/36, so the probability of not throwing a double six is 35/36. Similarly, the probability of not throwing a double six in N2 straight throws of a pair of dice is (35/36)^N2.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus, the probability of not not throwing a double six in N2 straight throws of a pair of dice is 1 - (35/36)^N2, in other words,&lt;br /&gt;
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P2 = 1 - (35/36)^N2&lt;br /&gt;
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via tabulation, N2 = 25 (which is one off from the 24 that Gombaud expected)&lt;br /&gt;
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Gombaud&amp;#039;s mistake:&lt;br /&gt;
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He believed in strict proportionality, so he believed&lt;br /&gt;
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N1/6 = N2/36&lt;br /&gt;
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since there are 6 ways for a die to fall in the first game, and 36 ways for a die to fall in the second game.&lt;br /&gt;
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on very careful observation of a large number of games, Gombaud found that this proportionality did NOT hold.&lt;br /&gt;
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